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===Act Two=== | ===Act Two=== | ||
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'''[[Ruined Battlefield]]''' | ◎ '''[[Ruined Battlefield]]''' | ||
● ''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Grymforge]]:'' | |||
* Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Oath of Vengeance|Vengeance Paladin}} or a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, use a class-based answer when [[Lassandra|Harper Lassandra]] orders you to come closer. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Oath of Vengeance|Vengeance Paladin}} or a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, use a class-based answer when [[Lassandra|Harper Lassandra]] orders you to come closer. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Answer that you're a nightmare in the dark. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Answer that you're a nightmare in the dark. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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▶''''' Note:''' The [[Dark Urge]] option to "Abandon them" does not bring approval.'' <br> | ▶''''' Note:''' The [[Dark Urge]] option to "Abandon them" does not bring approval.'' <br> | ||
''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | ● ''If entering the [[Shadow-Cursed Lands]] from the [[Rosymorn Monastery Trail]]:'' | ||
* Convince the cowardly hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive {{ | * Convince the cowardly hyena in the convoy that it doesn't belong to goblins and should leave them. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive {{Skill|Persuasion}} check, and then either {{Skill|Persuasion}} or {{Skill|Intimidation}} check)'' | ||
* Order [[Gronag|Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he orders the hyena to do the same. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Order [[Gronag|Warrior Gronag]] to fetch the bone, after he orders the hyena to do the same. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, stop Gronag. Then, when [[Kar'niss]] the drider comes, ask him about his lantern and what is there in the shadows. After the drider butchers the [[Vez|goblin]] who "fed the shadows", say it was amazing {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, stop Gronag. Then, when [[Kar'niss]] the drider comes, ask him about his lantern and what is there in the shadows. After the drider butchers the [[Vez|goblin]] who "fed the shadows", say it was amazing {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him, using | * Convince the drider not to attack you if you killed the convoy before summoning him, using {{Skill|Deception}} OR {{Skill|Intimidation}}. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy, protect them from [[Harpers]], thus maintaining your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Traversing Shadow-Cursed Lands with the convoy, protect them from [[Harpers]], thus maintaining your cover as a True Soul {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Side with the ambushing Harpers. Then, after defeating the convoy, tell the Harpers' leader you're going to kill them and keep the | ** OR Side with the ambushing Harpers. Then, after defeating the convoy, tell the Harpers' leader you're going to kill them and keep the [[Moonlantern]].{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Immediately starts the fight with remaining Harpers)''. | ||
▶'''''Note:''' Works, too, if you managed to pick the lantern up during the battle.'' | ▶'''''Note:''' Works, too, if you managed to pick the lantern up during the battle.'' | ||
* If ambushing the convoy '''with''' the Harpers, start the dialogue with | * If ambushing the convoy '''with''' the Harpers, start the dialogue with Kar'niss and {{Skill|Deception|deceive}} it into giving you the lantern {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Then use | ** Then use {{Skill|Deception}} again to convince the drider to walk away into the shadows {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Starting the dialogue, reveal the ambush to the drider and turn yourself on Harpers {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Starting the dialogue, reveal the ambush to the drider and turn yourself on Harpers {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Talking to the drider after defeating Harpers, convince it that you have infiltrated their ranks to gather information {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to the drider after defeating Harpers, convince it that you have infiltrated their ranks to gather information {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, | ** OR, Playing as a {{Race|Drow}}, snap on it and call it abomination {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''At the [[House in Deep Shadows]]:'' | ● ''At the [[House in Deep Shadows]]:'' | ||
* Ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, then about his parents' names, and '''agree to play''' hide-and-seek with him. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''( | * Ask [[Oliver]] whether he doesn't have anyone else to play with, then about his parents' names, and '''agree to play''' hide-and-seek with him. Once Oliver explains the rules, tell him that you've changed your mind. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Immediately starts the fight with Oliver's "family")'' | ||
** OR Agree to play and beat | ** OR Agree to play and beat Oliver at the game '''twice''' without being spotted. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | ● ''When dealing with [[He Who Was]]:'' | ||
* Agree to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] for | * Agree to find [[Madeline's Ledger]] for He Who Was {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Order [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Evil {{Class|Cleric}} will have a unique line)'' | * Order [[Madeline]] to hurt herself as Ben and Marc did {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Evil {{Class|Cleric}} will have a unique line)'' | ||
** Then tell her to stab herself and don't stop OR to prove she is sorry {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} | ** Then tell her to stab herself and don't stop OR to prove she is sorry {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** Finally succeed a | ** Finally succeed a {{Skill|Persuasion}} roll to keep her going {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
''Elsewhere:'' | ● ''Elsewhere:'' | ||
* When talking to [[Dolly Thrice]], ignore her pleads two times and keep the | * When talking to [[Dolly Thrice]], ignore her pleads two times and keep the Moonlantern. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* After saving [[Rolan]] from the | * After saving [[Rolan]] from the Shadows, tell him to shut up and be grateful {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, a {{Class|Bard}}, a {{Class|Sorcerer}} or a {{Class|Wizard}}, use a class-based option {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | ◎ '''[[Last Light Inn]]''' <br> | ||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* Talking to Jaheira for the first time, tell her that you are here on holiday. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to Jaheira for the first time, tell her that you are here on holiday. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | * When talking to Jaheira inside the inn, refuse to drink spiked wine {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | ● ''Dealing with [[Isobel]] and [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus]]:'' | ||
* If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | * If Marcus vouched for you at the entrance ''(in this case he will wait in Isobel's room)'': | ||
** Agree to help him kidnap Isobel OR say that you are going to take the cleric yourself {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ** Agree to help him kidnap Isobel OR say that you are going to take the cleric yourself {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
* If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | * If Marcus assaults the inn ''(happens if you gained entrance with [[Mol|Mol's]] help)'': | ||
** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, tell Isobel that "we | ** After speaking to Marcus telepathically, tell Isobel that "we follow the winged freak" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | * Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}: | ||
** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(available after the kidnap attempt AND if you haven't threatened her)'' | ** Tell Isobel that your blood orders you to kill her, then chase off the Urge, and finally choose any line to explain your behavior {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(available after the kidnap attempt AND if you haven't threatened her)'' | ||
''Speaking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Florrick|Councellor Florrick]]:'' | ||
* Ask whether the Flaming Fist are just going to stay around {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Ask whether the Flaming Fist are just going to stay around {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell Florrick that you have no intentions to go into [[Moonrise Towers]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell Florrick that you have no intentions to go into [[Moonrise Towers]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** If | ** If Wyll is in the party, tell Florrick it's your business what had happened to him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as [[Wyll]], say it was a devil deal that has gone terribly wrong {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as [[Wyll]] origin, say it was a devil deal that has gone terribly wrong {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | ● ''Talking to [[His Majesty]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | ||
* Say you only wanted to admire him close {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and then indeed choose to quietly admire him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Say you only wanted to admire him close {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}, and then indeed choose to quietly admire him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Hiss back at him, say that he is in your territory, and order to get out {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Hiss back at him, say that he is in your territory, and order to get out {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Barbarian}}, WOOF at him {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ||
* When she tells you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, conclude that she abandoned others {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(use basic line or | * When she tells you about their misfortunes and says they ran until found the inn, conclude that she abandoned others {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(use basic line or class-based one for {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Class|Monk}} or {{Class|Paladin}} (except {{Class|Oathbreaker}}))'' | ||
* Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | * Ask her what they are doing here, if they headed for Baldur's Gate, and then: | ||
** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ** Tell her not to lose hope to see others alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ||
** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say she did the right mess of things. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | ● ''Talking to [[Alfira]]:'' | ||
* After [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus's]] assault, when she asks whether they cannot trust anyone: | * After [[Marcus Falgor|Marcus's]] assault, when she asks whether they cannot trust anyone: | ||
** Tell her to stop whining {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell her to stop whining {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** Promise you will find them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ** Promise you will find them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the [[Rescue the Tieflings|quest]], if you don't have it already)'' | ||
** OR Say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say you imagine the cultists are torturing them right now {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Talk to Alfira after [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescuing the tieflings]] from | * Talk to Alfira after [[Rescue the Tieflings|rescuing the tieflings]] from Moonrise Towers and take the reward {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(If [[Lakrissa]] survived, talking to her starts the same cutscene)'' | ||
''Speaking with [[Bex]] and [[Danis]]:'' | ● ''Speaking with [[Bex]] and [[Danis]]:'' | ||
* Before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|save captured refugees]]: | * Before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|save captured refugees]]: | ||
** Promise Bex to find Danis, using any of two basic options or {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Cleric}} lines {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | ** Promise Bex to find Danis, using any of two basic options or {{Class|Paladin}} or {{Class|Cleric}} lines {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts the quest, if you don't have it already)'' | ||
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** Smile and then say it's wonderful to see them together OR mention that it is all thanks to you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | ** Smile and then say it's wonderful to see them together OR mention that it is all thanks to you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(a {{Class|Cleric}} character will have a unique line)'' | ||
''Dealing with [[Rolan]], [[Cal]] and [[Lia]]:'' | ● ''Dealing with [[Rolan]], [[Cal]] and [[Lia]]:'' | ||
* Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | * Speaking to drunken Rolan before trying to [[Rescue the Tieflings|saving captured refugees]]: | ||
** Tell him that his siblings are better off dead than in cult's hands {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell him that his siblings are better off dead than in cult's hands {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell him to stop whining and do something about it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell him to stop whining and do something about it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, tell him he won't be able to read his spellbook if he keeps drinking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Sorcerer}}, tell him he won't be able to read his spellbook if he keeps drinking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If you have already saved him from the | * If you have already saved him from the Shadows, say you're absolutely going to gloat {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If either Cal or Lia (or both) '''died''' while saving attempt: | * If either Cal or Lia (or both) '''died''' while saving attempt: | ||
** Tell Rolan that you wanted to save everyone, but couldn't {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell Rolan that you wanted to save everyone, but couldn't {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* If Rolan died in battle with Shadows, tell either Cal or Lia that he died as he lived - stupidly {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If Rolan died in battle with Shadows, tell either Cal or Lia that he died as he lived - stupidly {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken | ● ''Talking to [[Ide]] after drunken Rolan has snapped on her:'' | ||
* Say you're sorry, and then add that he is more immature than she is {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Say you're sorry, and then add that he is more immature than she is {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil": | * OR Call Rolan a grump, and when Ide complains he called her a "ragged little devil": | ||
** Say that he was observant for it's what she really is. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Say that he was observant for it's what she really is. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell her next time call him one back {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell her next time call him one back {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When Ide shows you the [[The Way of the Wanderer|book]] she means to keep for Rolan, convince her to give it to you, using | * When Ide shows you the [[The Way of the Wanderer|book]] she means to keep for Rolan, convince her to give it to you, using {{Skill|Deception}}, {{Skill|Intimidation}} or {{Skill|Persuasion}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
''Dealing with [[Raphael]] and [[Mol]]:'' | ● ''Dealing with [[Raphael]] and [[Mol]]:'' | ||
* Help Mol win the game against Raphael using the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}}, or {{Class|Wizard}} options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | * Help Mol win the game against Raphael using the {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Monk}}, or {{Class|Wizard}} options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** After Raphael disappears, tell Astarion that carving scars in his back must have been excruciating {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you '''haven't ever seen his scars prior''''' | ▶ '''''Note:''' The cutscene continues towards this course only if you '''haven't ever seen his scars prior'''. If you haven't come to the inn at all, this option will occur in the dialogue with Raphael near the [[Thorm Mausoleum]] entrance'' | ||
* After Mol is taken during the assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After Mol is taken during the assault, tell [[Mattis]] she's probably dead already. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Meygan|Harper Meygan]] mourning [[Yonas]]:'' | ● ''Talking to [[Meygan|Harper Meygan]] mourning [[Yonas]]:'' | ||
* Say that Yonas was better at jokes than at keeping himself alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Say that Yonas was better at jokes than at keeping himself alive {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Say that he'd still be around if he'd spent less time on joking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say that he'd still be around if he'd spent less time on joking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If you looted Yonas's body, ask Meygan whether she would like to take Yonas's sword, then say you were kidding and keep it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If you looted Yonas's body, ask Meygan whether she would like to take Yonas's sword, then say you were kidding and keep it {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to the [[Strange Ox]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | ● ''Talking to the [[Strange Ox]] via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}:'' | ||
* Promise to keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Promise to keep its secret. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Tell the ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Tell the ox that it takes worse than a bit of gore to turn your gullet. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, give in to your urge to kill the | ** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, give in to your urge to kill the ox. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | ● ''Elsewhere in the inn:'' | ||
* When [[Vidor|Manip Vidor]] says you are meant to be heading towards Moonrise, answer "doing your job, you mean" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When [[Vidor|Manip Vidor]] says you are meant to be heading towards Moonrise, answer "doing your job, you mean" {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Call [[Wulbren]] a prick when [[Barcus Wroot]] talks to him after you [[Rescue Wulbren|rescue him]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** If you did it and ended the dialogue, speak to him again and call him a prick second time {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** If you did it and ended the dialogue, speak to him again and call him a prick second time {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | |||
''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | ◎ '''[[Reithwin Town]]'''<br> | ||
● ''In the [[Reithwin Tollhouse]]:'' | |||
* Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | * Convince [[Gerringothe Thorm]] to end herself by any available option. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(requires sequentive DC 18 and then DC 21 rolls on various skills, dialogue lines include class-based options)'' | ||
'' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ● '' In the [[House of Healing]]:'' | ||
* Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Convince [[Malus Thorm]] to order his [[Zealous Assistant|sisters]] to hone their blades on each other.{{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Then persuade Malus Thorm to operate on himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | * OR Convince Malus Thorm to take the place of his patient and submit to sisters' curing. {{Approval|Astarion|+2}} ''(comes one point by another subsequently)''. | ||
''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ● ''At [[The Waning Moon]]:'' | ||
* Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | * Safely drink with [[Thisobald Thorm]] (rolling [[Saving Throw]], either general or class-based) up to three times total {{Approval|Astarion|+1}}''(each time)'' | ||
** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling | ** OR successfully imitate drinking (rolling {{Skill|Sleight of Hand}}) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(gains approval only in first round)'' | ||
* Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through | * Successfully entertain the brewer with your stories (through {{Skill|Performance}} roll) {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} .''(each time)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' If Performance roll failed, successful subsequent | ▶ '''''Note:''' If {{Skill|Performance}} roll failed, successful subsequent {{Skill|Deception}} roll earns a point of approval, nonetheless.'' | ||
* By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * By any means make the Thisobald Thorm drink his 'elixir' three times in a row, thus leading him to burst {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''<br> | ◎ '''[[Moonrise Towers]]'''<br> | ||
''Witnessing [[Ketheric|Ketheric's]] trial (at the very first visit to Moonrise):'' | ● ''Witnessing [[Ketheric|Ketheric's]] trial (at the very first visit to Moonrise):'' | ||
* If [[Minthara]] is judged: | * If [[Minthara]] is judged: | ||
** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, after Ketheric declares the sentence, intervene and say you can make Minthara's passing ''much'' more creative {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, after Ketheric declares the sentence, intervene and say you can make Minthara's passing ''much'' more creative {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When [[Z'rell]] orders you to decide the goblins' fate, kill them through illithid powers {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When [[Z'rell|Disciple Z'rell]] orders you to decide the goblins' fate, kill them through illithid powers {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' A {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character will have several options, all gaining points'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' A {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}} character will have several options, all gaining points'' | ||
''Talking to | ● ''Talking to Z'rell after the trial:'' | ||
* If you killed the goblins: | * If you killed the goblins: | ||
** Distract | ** Distract Z'rell with "your lusts for Astarion" when she searches your mind for the proof of your faith {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you're romancing the spawn'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you're romancing the spawn'' | ||
:* Then ask her to show something real of the power that Absolute gifted her | :* Then ask her to show something real of the power that [[Absolute]] gifted her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If you have helped [[Balthazar]] to retrieve [[Nightsong]]: | * If you have already helped [[Balthazar]] to retrieve [[Nightsong]]: | ||
** Agree to kidnap Isobel on Z'rell's order {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Agree to kidnap Isobel on Z'rell's order {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** If you have already kidnapped Isobel, too, tell Z'rell you have an eye on her position {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** If you have already kidnapped Isobel, too, tell Z'rell you have an eye on her position {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''At the [[Moonrise Towers Prison]]:'' | ● ''At the [[Moonrise Towers Prison]]:'' | ||
* When approaching | * When approaching Minthara being tortured and erased by [[Jasin]] and [[Sumera]]: | ||
** Say you expected to see her dismembered {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Say you expected to see her dismembered {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Succeed the {{Ability check|Wisdom|18}} to reach out to Minthara's mind, tell her to play along, and then convince the questioners that you have broken her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Succeed the {{Ability check|Wisdom|18}} to reach out to Minthara's mind, tell her to play along, and then convince the questioners that you have broken her {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Say that the only thing you're going to break is them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts a fight with the questioners, with Minthara taking your side)'' | ** OR Say that the only thing you're going to break is them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(starts a fight with the questioners, with Minthara taking your side)'' | ||
* After the fight, escort Minthara out of Moonrise Towers and tell where to find your camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * After the fight, escort Minthara out of Moonrise Towers and tell her where to find your camp {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speaking to the [[Warden]] for the first time, tell her that her face is bland, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Speaking to the [[Warden]] for the first time, tell her that her face is bland, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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* Talking to [[Lia]], promise to help the tieflings escape {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Talking to [[Lia]], promise to help the tieflings escape {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Talking to [[Lakrissa]], when she accuses you of serving the cult, succeed a | * Talking to [[Lakrissa]], when she accuses you of serving the cult, succeed a {{Skill|Persuasion}} or an {{Skill|Intimidation}} roll, then promise to help the tieflings {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Refuse to help them {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speaking to [[Wulbren]], say that [[Barcus Wroot]] sent you, OR use any of check-based options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Speaking to [[Wulbren]], say that [[Barcus Wroot]] sent you, OR use any of check-based options {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** If the party found themselves in a cell, accept Wulbren's offer to break out together {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** If the party found themselves in a cell, accept Wulbren's offer to break out together {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Provide | * Provide Wulbren with any tool capable of destroying a wall {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When | * When Wulbren, once freed, takes the boat and sails off without the party, let him go {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Paladin}} or a Good {{Class|Cleric}}, say that their chasers won't get past you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as a {{Class|Paladin}} or a Good {{Class|Cleric}}, say that their chasers won't get past you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Outrage on Wulbren's betrayal, using basic line or class-based/race-based lines for Evil {{Class|Cleric}}, {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Race|Drow}}, {{Race|Githyanki}} or {{Race|Deep Gnome}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Outrage on Wulbren's betrayal, using basic line or class-based/race-based lines for Evil {{Class|Cleric}}, {{Class|Barbarian}}, {{Class|Bard}}, {{Class|Fighter}}, {{Race|Drow}}, {{Race|Githyanki}} or {{Race|Deep Gnome}} {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If the jailbreak was successful and your participation went unnoticed, tell the Warden it was you who snuck the prisoners {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Elsewhere in Moonrise Towers:'' | ● ''Elsewhere in Moonrise Towers:'' | ||
* Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Sever the connection between [[Linsella]] and [[Barnabus]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion is his own person {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Tell [[Araj Oblodra]] that Astarion is his own person {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** Then back Astarion | ** Then back up Astarion when he refuses to bite Araj, telling her "He said no, what's to discuss". {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when Araj asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ** OR Tell Astarion that he shall not do anything he doesn't want to, when Araj asks you to pressure him into taking her offer {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* At the Moonrise Towers docks, use illithid {{ | * At the Moonrise Towers docks, use illithid {{Skill|Wisdom}} check on [[Marls|Acolyte Marls]], and then tell him to wash the worms off. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Final fight at the Moonrise:'' | ● ''Final fight at the Moonrise:'' | ||
* If you haven't come to [[Last Light Inn]] at all, before final fight for | * If you haven't come to [[Last Light Inn]] at all, before final fight for Moonrise Towers tell Jaheira you are a foe. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop|rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * At the [[Moonrise Towers Rooftop|rooftop]], tell [[Ketheric]] that seeing your enemies cowed never gets old {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires first {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}}, and any of subsequent DC 30 checks, OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This option requires first {{Ability Check|Intimidation|21}} or {{Ability check|Persuasion|18}}, and any of subsequent DC 30 checks, OR a {{Ability Check|Persuasion|10}} if you have found and read Melodia's [[Letter to Ketheric]]'' | ||
'''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]'''<br> | ◎ '''[[Gauntlet of Shar]]'''<br> | ||
''Dealing with [[Yurgir]] and his retinue:'' | ● ''Dealing with [[Yurgir]] and his retinue:'' | ||
* When speaking to the orthon initially, choose to attack him straightaway. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * When speaking to the orthon initially, choose to attack him straightaway. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
** OR Talk to Yurgir about his pact, | ** OR Talk to Yurgir about his pact, succeed a passive {{Skill|Insight}} check and three subsequent {{Skill|Persuasion}} checks to make him kill the Merregons, shoot his [[Displacer Beast]] [[Nessa]], and finally off himself. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' The Insight check is not needed when playing as a | ▶ '''''Note:''' The Insight check is not needed when playing as a {{Class|Bard}} or a {{Class|Warlock}}'' | ||
* If you agreed to help Yurgir: | * If you agreed to help Yurgir: | ||
** Successfully {{SAI|Detect Thoughts}} of the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Successfully {{SAI|Detect Thoughts}} of the [[Hoarding Merregon]] and ask for the potions used to charm Nessa. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Speak to Nessa via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} and | ** Speak to Nessa via {{SAI|Speak with Animals}} and {{Skill|Persuasion|convince}} her that her love to the orthon is caused by dosed meat {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available if the party has earlier investigated the dead spider carcass or detected thoughts of the merregon'' | |||
** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, tell Nessa you didn't think the displacer beasts were ''slaves''. Then discuss her love to the orthon and finally say that love is a disease like any other {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR, Playing as {{Background|Haunted One|The Dark Urge}}, tell Nessa you didn't think the displacer beasts were ''slaves''. Then discuss her love to the orthon and finally say that love is a disease like any other {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, pass the {{ | ** Without {{SAI|Speak with Animals}}, pass the {{Skill|Animal Handling}} check and give the beast a scratch behind the ears {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Near Pedestal of Reckoning and through [[Gauntlet_of_Shar#Trials_of_Shar|Shar's trials]]:'' | ● ''Near Pedestal of Reckoning and through [[Gauntlet_of_Shar#Trials_of_Shar|Shar's trials]]:'' | ||
* When [[Shadowheart]] speaks of her destiny to go through the trials and become a [[Dark Justiciar]]: | * When [[Shadowheart]] speaks of her destiny to go through the trials and become a [[Dark Justiciar]]: | ||
** Answer that this is a distraction OR that you are actually here to gain Ketheric's trust {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ** Answer that this is a distraction OR that you are actually here to gain Ketheric's trust {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(either option)'' | ||
** OR Agree to help her if you can {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Agree to help her if you can {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Dealing with [[Balthazar]] in his outpost:'' | ● ''Dealing with [[Balthazar]] in his outpost:'' | ||
* Agree to clear the way for the necromancer, then persuade him to assign [[Flesh]] to your help {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Agree to clear the way for the necromancer, then persuade him to assign [[Flesh]] to your help {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask Balthazar what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Makes Balthazar and his minions hostile)'' | ** Having [[Mother Dearest]] in your inventory, ask Balthazar what happened to his mother. Then, tell him you took the urn, and finally say that you'll keep her. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Makes Balthazar and his minions hostile)'' | ||
''In the [[Shadowfell]]:'' | ● ''In the [[Shadowfell]]:'' | ||
* If you have defeated Balthazar, choose to kill [[Aylin]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If you have defeated Balthazar, choose to kill [[Aylin]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
'''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''<br> | ◎ '''[[Mind Flayer Colony]]'''<br> | ||
''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:'' | ● ''In the [[Necrotic Laboratory]]:'' | ||
* Talking to the [[Waking Mind]], succeed the passive | * Talking to the [[Waking Mind]] via the [[Slack-Skinned Head]], succeed the passive {{Skill|Insight}} check and choose to consume her mind {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Talking to | * Talking to Balthazar, successfully pretend to be a thrall {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This option is available only if you helped the necromancer reach the Nightsong and let him take her to Ketheric'' | |||
'''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]'''<br> | ◎ '''After the final fight with [[Apostle of Myrkul]]'''<br> | ||
''Talking to [[Halsin]]:'' | ● ''Talking to [[Halsin]]:'' | ||
* If you still haven't helped him with lifting the Shadow Curse, say the curse was always his burden, not yours {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * If you still haven't helped him with lifting the Shadow Curse, say the curse was always his burden, not yours {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Jaheira]]:'' | ||
* Say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Say that she seems to enjoy herself, then tell you're having the time of your life, too {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Minthara]]:'' | ||
* If you haven't recruited her earlier, she | * If you haven't recruited her earlier, she will be intent to go to Baldur's Gate with you. Answer that you two make a good team {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When she says she will never tire of sitting on dead men's thrones, answer you'll never tire of killing previous occupants {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * When she says she will never tire of sitting on dead men's thrones, answer you'll never tire of killing previous occupants {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]], mention the cult might need a new leadership afterwards {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * When Minthara tells you she is going to kill [[Orin]], mention the cult might need a new leadership afterwards {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
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** OR Say you wanted revenge on those who did all this to you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say you wanted revenge on those who did all this to you {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Aylin]], if you let | ● ''Talking to [[Aylin]], if you let Balthazar take her from Shadowfell:'' | ||
* If | * If Isobel survived, tell them you must apologize to Aylin {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* If Isobel died: | * If Isobel died: | ||
** Tell Aylin it was a strategic move {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell Aylin it was a strategic move {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Say you would betray her again on a whim {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say you would betray her again on a whim {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ● ''Speaking to [[Cerys]]:'' | ||
* Tell her you're glad they are safe, and mention that Zevlor did his best {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell her you're glad they are safe, and mention that Zevlor did his best {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
** OR Say they are better off without [[Zevlor]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Say they are better off without [[Zevlor]] {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** When she answers that she has no money, say you were joking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** When she answers that she has no money, say you were joking {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Talking to [[Ide]], [[Umi]] and [[Mattis]]:'' | ● ''Talking to [[Ide]], [[Umi]] and [[Mattis]]:'' | ||
* Tell any of them about [[Mol|Mol's]] eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then: | * Tell any of them about [[Mol|Mol's]] eyepatch you have found down in the colony, and then: | ||
** Tell Ide that her friend is dead anyway {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** Tell Ide that her friend is dead anyway {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
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** OR Inform Umi that Mol is dead {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ** OR Inform Umi that Mol is dead {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
''Speaking to others:'' | ● ''Speaking to others:'' | ||
* Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, talk to [[Alfira]] and decline her proposal to play together for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Playing as a {{Class|Bard}}, talk to [[Alfira]] and decline her proposal to play together for the tiefling kids {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* Speak to [[Art Cullagh]] and ask whether the [[Shadow Curse|curse]] is everything he bothers about. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Option is available if you haven't eliminated the curse yet)'' | * Speak to [[Art Cullagh]] and ask whether the [[Shadow Curse|curse]] is everything he bothers about. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} ''(Option is available if you haven't eliminated the curse yet)'' | ||
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'''Camp/Conversation''' | ◎ '''Camp/Conversation''' | ||
* Tell [[Arabella]] her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | * Tell [[Arabella]] that her parents are dead. {{Approval|Astarion|+1}} | ||
* | * In the nighttime cutscene tell Astarion that you care about him, then choose to hug him OR open your mind to show your true feelings {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} ''(either option)'' | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This | ▶ '''''Note:''' This scene appears only if you are romancing the spawn, EITHER after you defended him from Araj Oblodra's molestations in Moonrise OR after you have killed Yurgir without talking to Araj first. Both these choices advance your relations into partnered stage'' | ||
:* OR Tell him he needs a friend more than another lover {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | :* OR Tell him he needs a friend more than another lover {{Approval|Astarion|+3}} | ||
▶ '''''Note:''' This choice ends the romance without approval loss'' | ▶ '''''Note:''' This choice ends the romance without approval loss'' | ||
'''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ◎ '''[[The Pale Elf|Personal quest]]''' | ||
* Tell him it makes sense to ask [[Raphael]] for help with investigating his scars. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * Tell him it makes sense to ask [[Raphael]] for help with investigating his scars. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
* After [[Raphael]] reveals the true purpose of the spawn's scars, tell Astarion you'll help hunt down and kill [[Cazador]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | * After [[Raphael]] reveals the true purpose of the spawn's scars, tell Astarion you'll help him hunt down and kill [[Cazador]]. {{Approval|Astarion|+5}} | ||
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Overview | Approval | Banter | Romance |
Astarion likes displays of power and cruelty, and appreciates snarkiness and mocking. He is inspired when the player gains access to areas/information by deceiving others. The player does not have to be "evil" to gain his approval, however — he approves when the player makes choices that support independence and autonomy, and when the player helps certain characters in need.
Astarion dislikes displays of weakness and does not like acts of kindness or charity that offer no reward. He also disapproves when the player tries to rein him in or restrict him in some way.
The actions and choices listed on this page will raise or lower Astarion's Approval.
For more information about the approval system, see Approval.
Greetings
Depending on his approval rating, Astarion may greet the player with:
Negative (<0):
- “You again.”
- "What do you need now?"
- "You're staring at me again. What do you want?"
Neutral (0 - 19):
- "Well, hello. What can I do for you?"
- “Yes?"
- “Need Something?”
Medium and up (20+):
- "Ah, my favourite travelling companion."
- "Hello, my dear."
- "What can I do for you, my friend?"
When spoken to by someone other than the player character:
- "Sorry, darling, I haven't got time for underlings. If your boss wants to speak with me, I'm all pointy ears."
Romance
Flirting:
- "It's always a pleasure to see you sauntering over."
- "Yes, darling?"
- "Hello, beautiful."
- "I did miss that face, you know."
- "Hello, my sweet."
- "Hello, lover."
- "Yes darling, do you need something?"
- "Need something? Or did you just miss me?"
Partnered:
- "Gods, you're beautiful."
- "Is there something you want to talk about, my dear?"
Broken up:
- "Why in the hells are you bothering me now?"
After Completing The Pale Elf
Act 3 Spoilers! This section reveals details about the story of Baldur's Gate 3.
Ascended - Partnered:
- "Look at you, precious thing. You always stare so eagerly."
- "Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
- "Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
- "My consort, we are so close to our triumph, I can almost taste it."
- "Yes, my treasure?"
Spawn - Partnered:
- "Ah, you're so adorable when you're thinking what to say."
- "I hope there's nothing troubling you, my dear?"
- "Yes, love?"
Dark Urge exclusive
Spoiler warning! This section reveals interactions with The Dark Urge.
Astarion also has some greetings exclusive to the Dark Urge origin. He will only say these once:
- "You have a manner of irresistible desperation about you. I like it." (first meeting)
- "My dagger-happy friend. What troubles you?" (Act One after killing Alfira or Quil Grootslang)
- "My sweet, conflicted villain. What can I do for you?" (Act Two after killing Isobel)
- "Come to kill me again, darling?" (Act Two if the player character fully refrained from killing him after failing to kill Isobel)
- "Precious little Bhaal-Babe!" (Act Three after the player character learns the truth about their parentage)
- "The child of Bhaal. I'm glad papa has blessed our dirty little plot" (Act Three when romanced, after becoming Bhaal's chosen)
Approval
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to gain approval.
Act One
Act Two
Act Three
Disapproval
The following story and dialogue choices will cause Astarion to lose approval.