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Editing my discussion page to be shorter while keeping key points from the convo, to keep it tidy case someone wants to open up another topic here. If this is considered against wiki etiquette, lmk and I'll revert it!
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(As the page owner, I've edited the discussion below for brevity so if anyone else talks to me it doesnt occupy a lot of space!)
== MTG Cards for Companions ==
== MTG Cards for Companions ==


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:There are! I can add them later :) [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 22:12, 15 January 2025 (CET)
:There are! I can add them later :) [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 22:12, 15 January 2025 (CET)
::Thanks! [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 23:49, 15 January 2025 (CET)
::Thanks! [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 23:49, 15 January 2025 (CET)
:::Is the Shadowheart page locked? I can't edit it. Might happen again, so if I haven't added the cards for a specific companion that's why. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 23:57, 15 January 2025 (CET)
::::Yeah this page was locked because of vandalism. It's unlocked now. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 23:59, 15 January 2025 (CET)
:::::Oh, and can you add information on copyright of the cards to each image's summary section, please? [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:01, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::Oh, and can you add information on copyright of the cards to each image's summary section, please? [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:01, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::Is there something I can use as reference? Do I just add "Copyright belong to Wizards of the Coast" ? I've seen some pictures have something about Larian's "fan content policy" but I'm not sure how to add that. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:11, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::Is there something I can use as reference? Do I just add "Copyright belong to Wizards of the Coast" ? I've seen some pictures have something about Larian's "fan content policy" but I'm not sure how to add that. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:11, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::Hm, i'm not sure, for larian there is <nowiki>{{larian}}</nowiki>, but i'm not sure about WotC. You can select a licence on the page where you can upload an image [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:18, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::Hm, i'm not sure, for larian there is <nowiki>{{larian}}</nowiki>, but i'm not sure about WotC. You can select a licence on the page where you can upload an image [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:18, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::From which site are the images of the MtG cards? [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:19, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::From which site are the images of the MtG cards? [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:19, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::To be honest it depended. Some of them were from an official site (Gatherer - Wizards of the Coast) some of them were from a website called Scryfall, and some of them I can't remember where I got them from as I just scrolled Google Images looking for good quality pictures, since I recognise which cards are official.
:::::::::It depended. Some of them were from an official site (Gatherer - Wizards of the Coast) some of them were from a website called Scryfall, and some of them I can't remember where I got them from.
:::::::::I'm not well versed in copyright but I'll see if I can add a license on each page [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:25, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::I can see that there are several templates for copyright licenses, but none exactly cover what I have added- that is unless MTG Cards can't be shown on wikis, which sounds unlikely? [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:29, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::I can see that there are several templates for copyright licenses, but none exactly cover what I have added- that is unless MTG Cards can't be shown on wikis, which sounds unlikely? [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:29, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::Hm, I'm not sure about this, that's because I asked.  
::::::::::Hm, I'm not sure about this, that's because I asked.  
::::::::::An entry with exact, accurate information in terms of copyright and permission to use this images on sites / pages like this wiki is mandatory. Otherwise the images, although I like them very much, must be removed or it might become expensive for the owner of this wiki. Which is not me by the way. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:32, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::An entry with exact, accurate information in terms of copyright and permission to use this images on sites / pages like this wiki is mandatory. Otherwise the images, although I like them very much, must be removed or it might become expensive for the owner of this wiki. Which is not me by the way. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 00:32, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::I remembered the Forgotten Realms wiki uses some artwork from the MTG Cards (although not the MTG card in its entirety) and this is what it says:
:::::::::::"Source
:::::::::::''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' (June 2022).  [[Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's Gate|CLB]] #114 "[[Astarion]]'s Thirst", illus. Winona Nelson. [[Wizards of the Coast]].
:::::::::::''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' (June 2022).  [[Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's Gate|CLB]] #570 "[[Astarion]]'s Thirst", illus. Winona Nelson. [[Wizards of the Coast]].
:::::::::::[https://twitter.com/winonanelson/status/1529520199308804096 Artist's Twitter]
:::::::::::Artist/photographer(s)
:::::::::::Winona Nelson
:::::::::::Licensing
:::::::::::This is a copyrighted image that has been released by Wizards of the Coast to promote their work or product in the media, such as advertising material or a promotional photo in a press kit.
:::::::::::The copyright for it is owned by [http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fr/welcome Wizards of the Coast], a subsidiary of Hasbro Inc. or the artist who produced the item in question; you must provide source information as evidence of ownership.
:::::::::::It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of promotional material
:::::::::::* to illustrate the work or product in question;
:::::::::::* in the absence of free images that could serve such a purpose,
:::::::::::qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Other uses of this image, on this Wiki or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement." [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:43, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::Although that is also to say that, if I am to look for each of the cards official artworks to reupload them, I will probably just undo all of my uploads instead, as it was time consuming to add all these and I try to do this for fun - which unfortunately means a low time investment for me. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 00:45, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::::I understand and I'm sorry. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 01:43, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::::Don't sweat it! Thank you for your help throughout all of this even if it doesn't pan out :) [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 01:51, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::::::It seems, we could use the images according to the WotC image policy. Stiil have to have find out which template has to be used. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 09:38, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::::::It seems, we could use the images according to the WotC image policy. Stiil have to have find out which template has to be used. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 09:38, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::::::I saw! It might be that we have to make a custom one (...Can I just copypaste the bit under Licensing from the FR wiki?) or that it falls under fancontent, but that sounded like fanart to me in the way that was described. Will ask on Discord again. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 12:30, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::::::I saw! It might be that we have to make a custom one (...Can I just copypaste the bit under Licensing from the FR wiki?) or that it falls under fancontent, but that sounded like fanart to me in the way that was described. Will ask on Discord again.  
:::::::::::::::::I already asked in the maintenance channel. [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 12:35, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::::::::Is "tomphone" your account in discord? [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 12:35, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::::::::::WoTC's policy says the following, so I'm not sure anymore, if we are allowed to use the MtG Cards:
:::::::::::::::::::WoTC's policy says the following, so I'm not sure anymore, if we are allowed to use the MtG Cards:
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:::::::::::::::::::So, what exactly is Wizards IP?  
:::::::::::::::::::So, what exactly is Wizards IP?  
:::::::::::::::::::Wizards IP '''<u>includes the cards</u>''', creatures, books, games, gameplay, pictures, stories, logos, animations, artwork, plots, locations, histories, characters, graphics, files, text, and other materials published by Wizards of the Coast.'' [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 12:53, 16 January 2025 (CET)
:::::::::::::::::::Wizards IP '''<u>includes the cards</u>''', creatures, books, games, gameplay, pictures, stories, logos, animations, artwork, plots, locations, histories, characters, graphics, files, text, and other materials published by Wizards of the Coast.'' [[User:Hawkeye|Hawkeye]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye|talk]]) 12:53, 16 January 2025 (CET)
::::::::::::::::::::Yes, that's my account.
::::::::::::::::::::What you posted is confusing since the artwork from the cards is being posted on other wikis, and it seems to be part of the description here. I'm as unsure.
::::::::::::::::::::What you posted is confusing since the artwork from the cards is being posted on other wikis, and it seems to be part of the description here. I'm as unsure.
::::::::::::::::::::I can't see a maintenance channel, but it might be because my account hasn't been there very long. [[User:AFrigidDoor|AFrigidDoor]] ([[User talk:AFrigidDoor|talk]]) 12:58, 16 January 2025 (CET)
(This issue, as of now, has been solved)

Revision as of 20:19, 16 January 2025

(As the page owner, I've edited the discussion below for brevity so if anyone else talks to me it doesnt occupy a lot of space!)

MTG Cards for Companions

Hi,

do you know if there MTG Cards for the other Companions? If yes, they maybe could be added to the companions' pages. Hawkeye (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2025 (CET)Reply

There are! I can add them later :) AFrigidDoor (talk) 22:12, 15 January 2025 (CET)Reply
Thanks! Hawkeye (talk) 23:49, 15 January 2025 (CET)Reply
Oh, and can you add information on copyright of the cards to each image's summary section, please? Hawkeye (talk) 00:01, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
Is there something I can use as reference? Do I just add "Copyright belong to Wizards of the Coast" ? I've seen some pictures have something about Larian's "fan content policy" but I'm not sure how to add that. AFrigidDoor (talk) 00:11, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
Hm, i'm not sure, for larian there is {{larian}}, but i'm not sure about WotC. You can select a licence on the page where you can upload an image Hawkeye (talk) 00:18, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
From which site are the images of the MtG cards? Hawkeye (talk) 00:19, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
It depended. Some of them were from an official site (Gatherer - Wizards of the Coast) some of them were from a website called Scryfall, and some of them I can't remember where I got them from.
I can see that there are several templates for copyright licenses, but none exactly cover what I have added- that is unless MTG Cards can't be shown on wikis, which sounds unlikely? AFrigidDoor (talk) 00:29, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
Hm, I'm not sure about this, that's because I asked.
An entry with exact, accurate information in terms of copyright and permission to use this images on sites / pages like this wiki is mandatory. Otherwise the images, although I like them very much, must be removed or it might become expensive for the owner of this wiki. Which is not me by the way. Hawkeye (talk) 00:32, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
It seems, we could use the images according to the WotC image policy. Stiil have to have find out which template has to be used. Hawkeye (talk) 09:38, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
I saw! It might be that we have to make a custom one (...Can I just copypaste the bit under Licensing from the FR wiki?) or that it falls under fancontent, but that sounded like fanart to me in the way that was described. Will ask on Discord again.
WoTC's policy says the following, so I'm not sure anymore, if we are allowed to use the MtG Cards:
What kind of stuff does “Fan Content” cover?
Pretty much anything you create based on or incorporating our IP. Fan Content includes fan art, videos, podcasts, blogs, websites, streaming content, tattoos, altars to your cleric’s deity, etc. The key is that it is your creation. It should go without saying, but Fan Content does not include the verbatim copying and reposting of Wizards’ IP (e.g., freely distributing D&D® rules content or books, creating counterfeit/proxy Magic: The Gathering® cards, etc.), regardless of whether that content is distributed for free.
So, what exactly is Wizards IP?
Wizards IP includes the cards, creatures, books, games, gameplay, pictures, stories, logos, animations, artwork, plots, locations, histories, characters, graphics, files, text, and other materials published by Wizards of the Coast. Hawkeye (talk) 12:53, 16 January 2025 (CET)Reply
What you posted is confusing since the artwork from the cards is being posted on other wikis, and it seems to be part of the description here. I'm as unsure.

(This issue, as of now, has been solved)